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  • 1.  On the MSR newsletter issue

    Posted 04-18-2007 10:35
    The newsletter issue raises the question of our focus, but I
    think that it creates questions about related things as well.

    First, I wonder whether we would react the same way if the
    article covered a more mainstream article on Christianity
    and the divinity of Jesus. Matthew Sheep alludes to this in
    his excellent comments, asking whether such an article would
    be permissible in the newsletter. I think that consistency
    of standards are essential. My own inclination is that if it
    isn't a testable hypothesis in some way, it probably doesn't
    belong. This would eliminate issues of divinity, where faith
    reigns supreme.

    Second, the question is not if religion fits into MSR, but
    how the R fits in. Just because it related to Management
    doesn't make it necessarily appropriate. I, for one, see
    absolutely no place for any article which tries to show that
    one religion is superior to another (even if that means that
    it is superior for organizational profitability); I see no
    place for any article that seeks to show that any particular
    religion is deleterious to organizational functioning.
    Articles like this can only create anger, divisiveness, and
    hate. It reduces religion to a kind of sporting event in
    which one "wins" over the other, or to a political
    discussion where invariably someone will translate
    deleterious functioning to some sort of evil or religious
    inferiority.

    The role of "religious thought" (in the plural sense) on
    organizational functioning does not imply any kind of
    superiority. The use of religious coping or religious
    attendance (like Harold Koenig does in his well-known work
    on religion and health) does not single out the "advantage"
    of one faith over and another provides an excellent test of
    religion's role in organizational life, without resorting
    to an implication of superiority. In the present political
    environment, it is not so far-fetched for hate-mongers to
    use a "scientific" forum to attack Islam or whatever
    religious group our political leaders wish for us to hate.

    I realize that much good work has been done in religious
    thought and that some of it may run counter to what I've
    said above. But MSR is not about religion, but about
    religion in the context of management. More importantly, it
    is NOT now nor should it ever be, a forum for anyone to
    engage in religious advocacy/evangelizing or religious
    denigration. There are churches, synagogues, and mosques
    that do a wonderful job of advocacy, and unfortunately, hate
    groups that will welcome people who want to do the latter. I
    see no place for that kind of thinking in this group. Others
    may disagree, and this list is precisely the place where
    such discussions may be had.

    Bob

    Robert A. Giacalone, Ph.D.
    Department of Human Resource Management
    Acting Director, Center for Ethics and Organizational Integrity
    313 Speakman Hall, FSBM
    Temple University
    1810 N. 13th St.
    Philadelphia, PA 19122
    e-mail: ragiacal@temple.edu
    Work phone: (215) 204-7038
    Fax: (215) 204-8362

    Without a rich heart, wealth is an ugly beggar.--Ralph Waldo Emerson

    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society - Krishnamurti

    To care for anyone else enough to make their problems one's own, is ever the beginning of one's real ethical development--Felix Adler


  • 2.  On the MSR newsletter issue

    Posted 04-18-2007 13:12
    Dear Bob:

    Your posts are always so thoughtful and helpful. I've been an MSR list "lurker" for some time--my more active participation is on the Critical Management Studies list. I did just want to thank you for your perspectives. I enjoy and learn from them.

    Tom Potterfield

    >From: "Robert A. Giacalone" <ragiacal@TEMPLE.EDU>
    >Date: 2007/04/18 Wed AM 09:35:28 CDT
    >To: MSR@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >Subject: On the MSR newsletter issue

    >The newsletter issue raises the question of our focus, but I
    >think that it creates questions about related things as well.
    >
    >First, I wonder whether we would react the same way if the
    >article covered a more mainstream article on Christianity
    >and the divinity of Jesus. Matthew Sheep alludes to this in
    >his excellent comments, asking whether such an article would
    >be permissible in the newsletter. I think that consistency
    >of standards are essential. My own inclination is that if it
    >isn't a testable hypothesis in some way, it probably doesn't
    >belong. This would eliminate issues of divinity, where faith
    >reigns supreme.
    >
    >Second, the question is not if religion fits into MSR, but
    >how the R fits in. Just because it related to Management
    >doesn't make it necessarily appropriate. I, for one, see
    >absolutely no place for any article which tries to show that
    >one religion is superior to another (even if that means that
    >it is superior for organizational profitability); I see no
    >place for any article that seeks to show that any particular
    >religion is deleterious to organizational functioning.
    >Articles like this can only create anger, divisiveness, and
    >hate. It reduces religion to a kind of sporting event in
    >which one "wins" over the other, or to a political
    >discussion where invariably someone will translate
    >deleterious functioning to some sort of evil or religious
    >inferiority.
    >
    >The role of "religious thought" (in the plural sense) on
    >organizational functioning does not imply any kind of
    >superiority. The use of religious coping or religious
    >attendance (like Harold Koenig does in his well-known work
    >on religion and health) does not single out the "advantage"
    >of one faith over and another provides an excellent test of
    >religion's role in organizational life, without resorting
    >to an implication of superiority. In the present political
    >environment, it is not so far-fetched for hate-mongers to
    >use a "scientific" forum to attack Islam or whatever
    >religious group our political leaders wish for us to hate.
    >
    >I realize that much good work has been done in religious
    >thought and that some of it may run counter to what I've
    >said above. But MSR is not about religion, but about
    >religion in the context of management. More importantly, it
    >is NOT now nor should it ever be, a forum for anyone to
    >engage in religious advocacy/evangelizing or religious
    >denigration. There are churches, synagogues, and mosques
    >that do a wonderful job of advocacy, and unfortunately, hate
    >groups that will welcome people who want to do the latter. I
    >see no place for that kind of thinking in this group. Others
    >may disagree, and this list is precisely the place where
    >such discussions may be had.
    >
    >Bob
    >
    >Robert A. Giacalone, Ph.D.
    >Department of Human Resource Management
    >Acting Director, Center for Ethics and Organizational Integrity
    >313 Speakman Hall, FSBM
    >Temple University
    >1810 N. 13th St.
    >Philadelphia, PA 19122
    >e-mail: ragiacal@temple.edu
    >Work phone: (215) 204-7038
    >Fax: (215) 204-8362
    >
    >Without a rich heart, wealth is an ugly beggar.--Ralph Waldo Emerson
    >
    >It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society - Krishnamurti
    >
    >To care for anyone else enough to make their problems one's own, is ever the beginning of one's real ethical development--Felix Adler