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message from India

  • 1.  message from India

    Posted 02-01-2008 19:07
    Dear MSRnetters,
    my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to share
    the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    I am pleased to oblige.
    regards,
    Yochanan


  • 2.  message from India

    Posted 02-04-2008 13:55
    Thank you. Warm greegins from the Mission Campus.

    Andre


  • 3.  message from India

    Posted 02-04-2008 22:30
    I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual perspective.

    Respectfully,
    Noelle Scuderi

    Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    The George Washington University

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    Subject: message from India


    > Dear MSRnetters,
    > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to share
    > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > I am pleased to oblige.
    > regards,
    > Yochanan
    >


  • 4.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 04:30
    Thank you very much

    regards
    annabel
    ___________________________________
    Dr. Annabel Droussiotis, Associate Professor
    Department of Management and MIS
    Campus Program Coordinator - School of Business Administration
    Intercollege, Limassol
    92 Ayias Philaxeos, P.O.Box 51604
    Limassol, 3507
    Cyprus
    Tel: +357-25381180
    Fax: +357-25386982

    E-mail: droussiotis.a@lim.intercollege.ac.cy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:07 AM
    Subject: message from India


    > Dear MSRnetters,
    > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to share
    > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > I am pleased to oblige.
    > regards,
    > Yochanan
    >


  • 5.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 11:55
    I quite agree, Noelle.  The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion thread on this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it continues.  I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose of MSR as a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor for the purpose of scholarly organizational research.  I joined the interest group for the latter, not the former. 
     
    The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized from any clearly stated academic purpose.  I certainly believe strongly in religious freedom of expression for all.  However, religious truth claims unsupported by research or with no clearly given organizational research purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by utilizing the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    Best always,
    Mathew
     
    --
    Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    College of Business
    Illinois State University
    Campus Box 5580
    Normal, IL 61790-5580
    Phone. (309) 438-3468
    E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu

     
    On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual perspective.

    Respectfully,
    Noelle Scuderi

    Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    The George Washington University

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    Subject: message from India


    > Dear MSRnetters,
    > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to share
    > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > I am pleased to oblige.
    > regards,
    > Yochanan
    >





  • 6.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 12:23

    Agree that this is inappropriate.  Thanks, Noelle.

     

    Janet Kiehl

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management, Spirituality & Religion [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu] On Behalf Of Noelle S
    Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:30 PM
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Subject: Re: message from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>

     

    I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this

    thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum

    should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual perspective.

     

    Respectfully,

    Noelle Scuderi

     

    Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology

    The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">George</st1:placename> <st1:placename w:st="on">Washington</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>

     

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>

    To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>

    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM

    Subject: message from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>

     

     

    > Dear MSRnetters,

    > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to share

    > the enclosed piece with your good selves.

    > I am pleased to oblige.

    > regards,

    > Yochanan

    >



  • 7.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 12:32
    Y'all,

    Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review by a designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which has advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next sentence or two and press "SEND" then everyone will receive it - fluidity is achieved (I can do this with the OB ListServe as well). The downside, of course, occurs with postings that move through the "radar-screen" so to speak for whatever reason (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).

    I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can and just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does not constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not thoughts).

    How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to Lao Tze and the Art of War?

    Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for posting to the MSR List Serve would help.

    Thanks.

    David


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
    Subject: Re: message from India

    I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion thread on
    this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it continues.
    I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose of MSR as
    a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor for the
    purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    group for the latter, not the former.

    The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized from any
    clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in religious
    freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims unsupported
    by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by utilizing
    the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    Best always,
    Mathew

    --
    Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    College of Business
    Illinois State University
    Campus Box 5580
    Normal, IL 61790-5580
    Phone. (309) 438-3468
    E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu


    On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >
    > I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    > thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    > should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    > perspective.
    >
    > Respectfully,
    > Noelle Scuderi
    >
    > Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    > The George Washington University
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    > To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    > Subject: message from India
    >
    >
    > > Dear MSRnetters,
    > > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to
    > share
    > > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > > I am pleased to oblige.
    > > regards,
    > > Yochanan
    > >
    >


    --
    David C. Trott Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Human Resource Development
    St. Edward's University
    Austin, TX 78749
    Tel. (512) 448-8736
    Fax (512) 448-8767


  • 8.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 13:36
    Hello Everyone,

    In response to David's comment, the MSR Listserv is still moderated--I am the moderator.

    I have generally tried to take a very low interference approach to moderation of the list. My general philosophy has been that I will not forward to the list messages that are clearly SPAM (e.g., "I need your personal bank account number to deposit a large sum of money from someone who just died overseas"). I also do not immediately forward messages that more than likely are intended to be private communications between members (in which case I typically ask the sender first if it was meant to be a private or public message before acting upon it). Beyond that, my approach has been to forward messages to the list and let members decide for themselves whether they are interested in the message.

    If my Listserv moderation philosophy does not work to serve the needs of the membership I am happy to adapt whatever approach the group deems to be in the best interests of the Listserv.

    Charles

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Charles J. Fornaciari, Ph.D.
    Associate Editor, Journal of Management Education
    Uncommon Friends Chair in Ethics
    Lutgert College of Business
    Florida Gulf Coast University
    (239) 590-7384

    “Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.”


    -----Original Message-----
    From: David C Trott [mailto:davidt@stedwards.edu]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM
    To: Spirituality & Religion Management
    Cc: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Subject: Re: message from India

    Y'all,

    Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review by a designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which has advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next sentence or two and press "SEND" then everyone will receive it - fluidity is achieved (I can do this with the OB ListServe as well). The downside, of course, occurs with postings that move through the "radar-screen" so to speak for whatever reason (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).

    I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can and just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does not constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not thoughts).

    How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to Lao Tze and the Art of War?

    Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for posting to the MSR List Serve would help.

    Thanks.

    David


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
    Subject: Re: message from India

    I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion thread on
    this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it continues.
    I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose of MSR as
    a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor for the
    purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    group for the latter, not the former.

    The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized from any
    clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in religious
    freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims unsupported
    by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by utilizing
    the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    Best always,
    Mathew

    --
    Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    College of Business
    Illinois State University
    Campus Box 5580
    Normal, IL 61790-5580
    Phone. (309) 438-3468
    E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu


    On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >
    > I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    > thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    > should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    > perspective.
    >
    > Respectfully,
    > Noelle Scuderi
    >
    > Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    > The George Washington University
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    > To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    > Subject: message from India
    >
    >
    > > Dear MSRnetters,
    > > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to
    > share
    > > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > > I am pleased to oblige.
    > > regards,
    > > Yochanan
    > >
    >


    --
    David C. Trott Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Human Resource Development
    St. Edward's University
    Austin, TX 78749
    Tel. (512) 448-8736
    Fax (512) 448-8767


  • 9.  message from India

    Posted 02-05-2008 14:03
    Thank you Charles!

    As a moderator of two Academy Lists, I support the approach you have taken. It is important to remember that we are a community of scholars (and others) and, as such, must be tolerant of others views, and uses, of the list. If you do not think a posting will interest you, delete it. You do not have to read it OR respond. There is no implication that content posted to the list is endorsed by the Academy or represents its views in any way. If the division wants to set editorial policies and or membership requirements beyond the minimum, then I would recommend that this be discussed in open forum at the annual meeting.

    I would like the list content to be broader than discussion of academic research and, quite frankly, found the attachment interesting as an artifact stating a particular belief frame that I was not aware of.

    Much more annoying to me is the stream of responses and reactions that DO clutter up my inbox, which I am now adding to, and which I can easily sort out and delete.


    Peace to all.

    JBunch

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management, Spirituality & Religion
    [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu]On Behalf Of Fornaciari, Dr. Charles
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:36 PM
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Subject: Re: message from India


    Hello Everyone,

    In response to David's comment, the MSR Listserv is still moderated--I am the moderator.

    I have generally tried to take a very low interference approach to moderation of the list. My general philosophy has been that I will not forward to the list messages that are clearly SPAM (e.g., "I need your personal bank account number to deposit a large sum of money from someone who just died overseas"). I also do not immediately forward messages that more than likely are intended to be private communications between members (in which case I typically ask the sender first if it was meant to be a private or public message before acting upon it). Beyond that, my approach has been to forward messages to the list and let members decide for themselves whether they are interested in the message.

    If my Listserv moderation philosophy does not work to serve the needs of the membership I am happy to adapt whatever approach the group deems to be in the best interests of the Listserv.

    Charles

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Charles J. Fornaciari, Ph.D.
    Associate Editor, Journal of Management Education
    Uncommon Friends Chair in Ethics
    Lutgert College of Business
    Florida Gulf Coast University
    (239) 590-7384

    Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your email address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: David C Trott [mailto:davidt@stedwards.edu]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM
    To: Spirituality & Religion Management
    Cc: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Subject: Re: message from India

    Y'all,

    Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review by a designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which has advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next sentence or two and press "SEND" then everyone will receive it - fluidity is achieved (I can do this with the OB ListServe as well). The downside, of course, occurs with postings that move through the "radar-screen" so to speak for whatever reason (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).

    I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can and just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does not constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not thoughts).

    How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to Lao Tze and the Art of War?

    Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for posting to the MSR List Serve would help.

    Thanks.

    David


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
    Subject: Re: message from India

    I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion thread on
    this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it continues.
    I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose of MSR as
    a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor for the
    purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    group for the latter, not the former.

    The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized from any
    clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in religious
    freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims unsupported
    by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by utilizing
    the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    Best always,
    Mathew

    --
    Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    Assistant Professor of Management
    College of Business
    Illinois State University
    Campus Box 5580
    Normal, IL 61790-5580
    Phone. (309) 438-3468
    E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu


    On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >
    > I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    > thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    > should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    > perspective.
    >
    > Respectfully,
    > Noelle Scuderi
    >
    > Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    > The George Washington University
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    > To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    > Subject: message from India
    >
    >
    > > Dear MSRnetters,
    > > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to
    > share
    > > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    > > I am pleased to oblige.
    > > regards,
    > > Yochanan
    > >
    >


    --
    David C. Trott Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Human Resource Development
    St. Edward's University
    Austin, TX 78749
    Tel. (512) 448-8736
    Fax (512) 448-8767


  • 10.  message from India

    Posted 02-06-2008 04:04
    I fully agree with the JBunch and Charles. We can receive information which
    might be of interest and if the information is of no interest to the reader,
    then they can delete it.

    I believe that disseminating information is very important because it is
    possible to stamble on information that might be of use. If however,
    documents are filtered and never reach us, we might miss on somethingn
    important.

    regards and peace to all

    Annabel

    ___________________________________
    Dr. Annabel Droussiotis, Associate Professor
    Department of Management and MIS
    Campus Program Coordinator - School of Business Administration
    Intercollege, Limassol
    92 Ayias Philaxeos, P.O.Box 51604
    Limassol, 3507
    Cyprus
    Tel: +357-25381180
    Fax: +357-25386982

    E-mail: droussiotis.a@lim.intercollege.ac.cy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John Bunch" <jbunch@BENEDICTINE.EDU>
    To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:03 PM
    Subject: Re: message from India


    > Thank you Charles!
    >
    > As a moderator of two Academy Lists, I support the approach you have
    > taken. It is important to remember that we are a community of scholars
    > (and others) and, as such, must be tolerant of others views, and uses, of
    > the list. If you do not think a posting will interest you, delete it. You
    > do not have to read it OR respond. There is no implication that content
    > posted to the list is endorsed by the Academy or represents its views in
    > any way. If the division wants to set editorial policies and or
    > membership requirements beyond the minimum, then I would recommend that
    > this be discussed in open forum at the annual meeting.
    >
    > I would like the list content to be broader than discussion of academic
    > research and, quite frankly, found the attachment interesting as an
    > artifact stating a particular belief frame that I was not aware of.
    >
    > Much more annoying to me is the stream of responses and reactions that DO
    > clutter up my inbox, which I am now adding to, and which I can easily sort
    > out and delete.
    >
    >
    > Peace to all.
    >
    > JBunch
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management, Spirituality & Religion
    > [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu]On Behalf Of Fornaciari, Dr. Charles
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:36 PM
    > To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    > Subject: Re: message from India
    >
    >
    > Hello Everyone,
    >
    > In response to David's comment, the MSR Listserv is still moderated--I am
    > the moderator.
    >
    > I have generally tried to take a very low interference approach to
    > moderation of the list. My general philosophy has been that I will not
    > forward to the list messages that are clearly SPAM (e.g., "I need your
    > personal bank account number to deposit a large sum of money from someone
    > who just died overseas"). I also do not immediately forward messages that
    > more than likely are intended to be private communications between members
    > (in which case I typically ask the sender first if it was meant to be a
    > private or public message before acting upon it). Beyond that, my approach
    > has been to forward messages to the list and let members decide for
    > themselves whether they are interested in the message.
    >
    > If my Listserv moderation philosophy does not work to serve the needs of
    > the membership I am happy to adapt whatever approach the group deems to be
    > in the best interests of the Listserv.
    >
    > Charles
    >
    > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Charles J. Fornaciari, Ph.D.
    > Associate Editor, Journal of Management Education
    > Uncommon Friends Chair in Ethics
    > Lutgert College of Business
    > Florida Gulf Coast University
    > (239) 590-7384
    >
    > Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any written
    > communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast University
    > employees is subject to disclosure to the public and the media, upon
    > request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are
    > public records. If you do not want your email address released in
    > response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this
    > entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing.
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: David C Trott [mailto:davidt@stedwards.edu]
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM
    > To: Spirituality & Religion Management
    > Cc: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    > Subject: Re: message from India
    >
    > Y'all,
    >
    > Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review by a
    > designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which has
    > advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next sentence or two and
    > press "SEND" then everyone will receive it - fluidity is achieved (I can
    > do this with the OB ListServe as well). The downside, of course, occurs
    > with postings that move through the "radar-screen" so to speak for
    > whatever reason (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).
    >
    > I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can and
    > just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does not
    > constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not thoughts).
    >
    > How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to Lao Tze
    > and the Art of War?
    >
    > Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for posting to
    > the MSR List Serve would help.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > David
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    > To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
    > Subject: Re: message from India
    >
    > I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion thread
    > on
    > this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it
    > continues.
    > I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose of MSR
    > as
    > a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    > religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor for the
    > purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    > group for the latter, not the former.
    >
    > The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized from any
    > clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in
    > religious
    > freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims
    > unsupported
    > by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    > purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by
    > utilizing
    > the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    > Best always,
    > Mathew
    >
    > --
    > Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    > Assistant Professor of Management
    > College of Business
    > Illinois State University
    > Campus Box 5580
    > Normal, IL 61790-5580
    > Phone. (309) 438-3468
    > E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu
    >
    >
    > On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >>
    >> I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate for this
    >> thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this forum
    >> should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    >> perspective.
    >>
    >> Respectfully,
    >> Noelle Scuderi
    >>
    >> Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    >> The George Washington University
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    >> To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    >> Subject: message from India
    >>
    >>
    >> > Dear MSRnetters,
    >> > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked me to
    >> share
    >> > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    >> > I am pleased to oblige.
    >> > regards,
    >> > Yochanan
    >> >
    >>
    >
    >
    > --
    > David C. Trott Ph.D.
    > Associate Professor of Human Resource Development
    > St. Edward's University
    > Austin, TX 78749
    > Tel. (512) 448-8736
    > Fax (512) 448-8767

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  • 11.  message from India

    Posted 02-06-2008 13:24
    Dear All:

    In a narrow sense, tolerance (in the sense of pluralism of ideas and
    opinion) is good on these lists. However, when the noise:signal
    ratio gets high, i.e., when a list to which we subscribe has a high
    percentage of stuff we consider clutter, then people unsubscribe in
    droves. When THAT happens, the purpose of an online community is
    destroyed because too many of the people we wish to engage in the
    discussions have decided they can't spend the time, in an information
    overload world, reading dozens of messages they want to delete.

    Our information-attention space is precious. If we don't take care
    of it, and allow it to be broadly abused (or used differently than we
    expected when we signed up), then it will cease to function
    effectively. (If in doubt, re-read Garrett Hardin's classic piece,
    The Tragedy of the Commons.) Boundaries of acceptable conduct do
    need to be defined and enforced in well organized societies. Anarchy
    is nobody's preferred version of civilization.

    So, at a personal level, if this is the Academy of Management List on
    which members discuss issues related to MS&R, I'll hang in. If it is
    becoming a list on which any missionary can post anything vaguely
    related to any of those key words, then my UNSUB button won't itch
    for long.

    We gotta decide, folks.

    On this particular matter, I think the more appropriate message would
    have been a BRIEF introduction, with a link to the religious sect's
    website, which those interested could follow, rather than a full
    attachment without a warning or introduction.

    Best regards,

    Tom Bryant.


    Dr. Tom Bryant, Executive Director
    Center for Innovation & Entrepreneurship
    Rohrer Chair in Entrepreneurial Studies
    Rohrer College of Business, Rowan University
    Glassboro, NJ 08028, USA
    (856) 256-4126; e-mail: bryant@rowan.edu
    SEE: Valuing the Closing Held Firm
    http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Finance/Corporate/?
    view=usa&ci=9780195301465




    On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:04 AM, Annabel Droussiotis wrote:

    > I fully agree with the JBunch and Charles. We can receive
    > information which might be of interest and if the information is of
    > no interest to the reader, then they can delete it.
    >
    > I believe that disseminating information is very important because
    > it is possible to stamble on information that might be of use. If
    > however, documents are filtered and never reach us, we might miss
    > on somethingn important.
    >
    > regards and peace to all
    >
    > Annabel
    >
    > ___________________________________
    > Dr. Annabel Droussiotis, Associate Professor
    > Department of Management and MIS
    > Campus Program Coordinator - School of Business Administration
    > Intercollege, Limassol
    > 92 Ayias Philaxeos, P.O.Box 51604
    > Limassol, 3507
    > Cyprus
    > Tel: +357-25381180
    > Fax: +357-25386982
    >
    > E-mail: droussiotis.a@lim.intercollege.ac.cy
    > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bunch"
    > <jbunch@BENEDICTINE.EDU>
    > To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:03 PM
    > Subject: Re: message from India
    >
    >
    >> Thank you Charles!
    >>
    >> As a moderator of two Academy Lists, I support the approach you
    >> have taken. It is important to remember that we are a community
    >> of scholars (and others) and, as such, must be tolerant of others
    >> views, and uses, of the list. If you do not think a posting will
    >> interest you, delete it. You do not have to read it OR respond.
    >> There is no implication that content posted to the list is
    >> endorsed by the Academy or represents its views in any way. If
    >> the division wants to set editorial policies and or membership
    >> requirements beyond the minimum, then I would recommend that this
    >> be discussed in open forum at the annual meeting.
    >>
    >> I would like the list content to be broader than discussion of
    >> academic research and, quite frankly, found the attachment
    >> interesting as an artifact stating a particular belief frame that
    >> I was not aware of.
    >>
    >> Much more annoying to me is the stream of responses and reactions
    >> that DO clutter up my inbox, which I am now adding to, and which I
    >> can easily sort out and delete.
    >>
    >>
    >> Peace to all.
    >>
    >> JBunch
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Management, Spirituality & Religion
    >> [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu]On Behalf Of Fornaciari, Dr. Charles
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:36 PM
    >> To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >>
    >> Hello Everyone,
    >>
    >> In response to David's comment, the MSR Listserv is still
    >> moderated--I am the moderator.
    >>
    >> I have generally tried to take a very low interference approach to
    >> moderation of the list. My general philosophy has been that I will
    >> not forward to the list messages that are clearly SPAM (e.g., "I
    >> need your personal bank account number to deposit a large sum of
    >> money from someone who just died overseas"). I also do not
    >> immediately forward messages that more than likely are intended to
    >> be private communications between members (in which case I
    >> typically ask the sender first if it was meant to be a private or
    >> public message before acting upon it). Beyond that, my approach
    >> has been to forward messages to the list and let members decide
    >> for themselves whether they are interested in the message.
    >>
    >> If my Listserv moderation philosophy does not work to serve the
    >> needs of the membership I am happy to adapt whatever approach the
    >> group deems to be in the best interests of the Listserv.
    >>
    >> Charles
    >>
    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >> --
    >> Charles J. Fornaciari, Ph.D.
    >> Associate Editor, Journal of Management Education
    >> Uncommon Friends Chair in Ethics
    >> Lutgert College of Business
    >> Florida Gulf Coast University
    >> (239) 590-7384
    >>
    >> Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any
    >> written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast
    >> University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and
    >> the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida
    >> law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your
    >> email address released in response to a public records request, do
    >> not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this
    >> office by phone or in writing.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: David C Trott [mailto:davidt@stedwards.edu]
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM
    >> To: Spirituality & Religion Management
    >> Cc: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >> Y'all,
    >>
    >> Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review
    >> by a designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which
    >> has advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next
    >> sentence or two and press "SEND" then everyone will receive it -
    >> fluidity is achieved (I can do this with the OB ListServe as
    >> well). The downside, of course, occurs with postings that move
    >> through the "radar-screen" so to speak for whatever reason
    >> (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).
    >>
    >> I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can
    >> and just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does
    >> not constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not
    >> thoughts).
    >>
    >> How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to
    >> Lao Tze and the Art of War?
    >>
    >> Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for
    >> posting to the MSR List Serve would help.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> David
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    >> To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/
    >> Chicago
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >> I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion
    >> thread on
    >> this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it
    >> continues.
    >> I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose
    >> of MSR as
    >> a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    >> religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor
    >> for the
    >> purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    >> group for the latter, not the former.
    >>
    >> The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized
    >> from any
    >> clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in
    >> religious
    >> freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims
    >> unsupported
    >> by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    >> purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by
    >> utilizing
    >> the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    >> Best always,
    >> Mathew
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    >> Assistant Professor of Management
    >> College of Business
    >> Illinois State University
    >> Campus Box 5580
    >> Normal, IL 61790-5580
    >> Phone. (309) 438-3468
    >> E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate
    >>> for this
    >>> thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this
    >>> forum
    >>> should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    >>> perspective.
    >>>
    >>> Respectfully,
    >>> Noelle Scuderi
    >>>
    >>> Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    >>> The George Washington University
    >>>
    >>> ----- Original Message -----
    >>> From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    >>> To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    >>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    >>> Subject: message from India
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> > Dear MSRnetters,
    >>> > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked
    >>> me to
    >>> share
    >>> > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    >>> > I am pleased to oblige.
    >>> > regards,
    >>> > Yochanan
    >>> >
    >>>

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  • 12.  message from India

    Posted 02-06-2008 14:11
    I agree with Tom on this one. Tolerance is mandatory, especially for
    MSR. However, Attention space is precious. This puts an added burden on
    our webmaster though in terms of communicating to those who may be
    overly verbose.

    Louis W. (Jody) Fry
    Professor of Management
    Tarleton State University - Central Texas
    1901 South Clear Creek Rd.
    Killeen, TX 76548
    254-519-5476
    fry@tarleton.edu
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management, Spirituality & Religion [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu]
    On Behalf Of Tom Bryant
    Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:24 PM
    To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    Subject: Re: message from India

    Dear All:

    In a narrow sense, tolerance (in the sense of pluralism of ideas and
    opinion) is good on these lists. However, when the noise:signal
    ratio gets high, i.e., when a list to which we subscribe has a high
    percentage of stuff we consider clutter, then people unsubscribe in
    droves. When THAT happens, the purpose of an online community is
    destroyed because too many of the people we wish to engage in the
    discussions have decided they can't spend the time, in an information
    overload world, reading dozens of messages they want to delete.

    Our information-attention space is precious. If we don't take care
    of it, and allow it to be broadly abused (or used differently than we
    expected when we signed up), then it will cease to function
    effectively. (If in doubt, re-read Garrett Hardin's classic piece,
    The Tragedy of the Commons.) Boundaries of acceptable conduct do
    need to be defined and enforced in well organized societies. Anarchy
    is nobody's preferred version of civilization.

    So, at a personal level, if this is the Academy of Management List on
    which members discuss issues related to MS&R, I'll hang in. If it is
    becoming a list on which any missionary can post anything vaguely
    related to any of those key words, then my UNSUB button won't itch
    for long.

    We gotta decide, folks.

    On this particular matter, I think the more appropriate message would
    have been a BRIEF introduction, with a link to the religious sect's
    website, which those interested could follow, rather than a full
    attachment without a warning or introduction.

    Best regards,

    Tom Bryant.


    Dr. Tom Bryant, Executive Director
    Center for Innovation & Entrepreneurship
    Rohrer Chair in Entrepreneurial Studies
    Rohrer College of Business, Rowan University
    Glassboro, NJ 08028, USA
    (856) 256-4126; e-mail: bryant@rowan.edu
    SEE: Valuing the Closing Held Firm
    http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Finance/Corporate/?
    view=usa&ci=9780195301465




    On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:04 AM, Annabel Droussiotis wrote:

    > I fully agree with the JBunch and Charles. We can receive
    > information which might be of interest and if the information is of
    > no interest to the reader, then they can delete it.
    >
    > I believe that disseminating information is very important because
    > it is possible to stamble on information that might be of use. If
    > however, documents are filtered and never reach us, we might miss
    > on somethingn important.
    >
    > regards and peace to all
    >
    > Annabel
    >
    > ___________________________________
    > Dr. Annabel Droussiotis, Associate Professor
    > Department of Management and MIS
    > Campus Program Coordinator - School of Business Administration
    > Intercollege, Limassol
    > 92 Ayias Philaxeos, P.O.Box 51604
    > Limassol, 3507
    > Cyprus
    > Tel: +357-25381180
    > Fax: +357-25386982
    >
    > E-mail: droussiotis.a@lim.intercollege.ac.cy
    > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bunch"
    > <jbunch@BENEDICTINE.EDU>
    > To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:03 PM
    > Subject: Re: message from India
    >
    >
    >> Thank you Charles!
    >>
    >> As a moderator of two Academy Lists, I support the approach you
    >> have taken. It is important to remember that we are a community
    >> of scholars (and others) and, as such, must be tolerant of others
    >> views, and uses, of the list. If you do not think a posting will
    >> interest you, delete it. You do not have to read it OR respond.
    >> There is no implication that content posted to the list is
    >> endorsed by the Academy or represents its views in any way. If
    >> the division wants to set editorial policies and or membership
    >> requirements beyond the minimum, then I would recommend that this
    >> be discussed in open forum at the annual meeting.
    >>
    >> I would like the list content to be broader than discussion of
    >> academic research and, quite frankly, found the attachment
    >> interesting as an artifact stating a particular belief frame that
    >> I was not aware of.
    >>
    >> Much more annoying to me is the stream of responses and reactions
    >> that DO clutter up my inbox, which I am now adding to, and which I
    >> can easily sort out and delete.
    >>
    >>
    >> Peace to all.
    >>
    >> JBunch
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Management, Spirituality & Religion
    >> [mailto:MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu]On Behalf Of Fornaciari, Dr. Charles
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:36 PM
    >> To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >>
    >> Hello Everyone,
    >>
    >> In response to David's comment, the MSR Listserv is still
    >> moderated--I am the moderator.
    >>
    >> I have generally tried to take a very low interference approach to
    >> moderation of the list. My general philosophy has been that I will
    >> not forward to the list messages that are clearly SPAM (e.g., "I
    >> need your personal bank account number to deposit a large sum of
    >> money from someone who just died overseas"). I also do not
    >> immediately forward messages that more than likely are intended to
    >> be private communications between members (in which case I
    >> typically ask the sender first if it was meant to be a private or
    >> public message before acting upon it). Beyond that, my approach
    >> has been to forward messages to the list and let members decide
    >> for themselves whether they are interested in the message.
    >>
    >> If my Listserv moderation philosophy does not work to serve the
    >> needs of the membership I am happy to adapt whatever approach the
    >> group deems to be in the best interests of the Listserv.
    >>
    >> Charles
    >>
    >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    >> --
    >> Charles J. Fornaciari, Ph.D.
    >> Associate Editor, Journal of Management Education
    >> Uncommon Friends Chair in Ethics
    >> Lutgert College of Business
    >> Florida Gulf Coast University
    >> (239) 590-7384
    >>
    >> Florida has a very broad public records law. As a result, any
    >> written communication created or received by Florida Gulf Coast
    >> University employees is subject to disclosure to the public and
    >> the media, upon request, unless otherwise exempt. Under Florida
    >> law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your
    >> email address released in response to a public records request, do
    >> not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this
    >> office by phone or in writing.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: David C Trott [mailto:davidt@stedwards.edu]
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:32 PM
    >> To: Spirituality & Religion Management
    >> Cc: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >> Y'all,
    >>
    >> Long ago, monitoring the MSR listserve required the direct review
    >> by a designated MSR person. It seems the system has changed which
    >> has advantages and disadvantages. When I finish this next
    >> sentence or two and press "SEND" then everyone will receive it -
    >> fluidity is achieved (I can do this with the OB ListServe as
    >> well). The downside, of course, occurs with postings that move
    >> through the "radar-screen" so to speak for whatever reason
    >> (perhaps key words that seem appropriate to the domain).
    >>
    >> I am not sure what, if anything, should be done; I read what I can
    >> and just let the the rest float by (disclaimer: "floating by" does
    >> not constitute "deep thoughts"....deep something perhaps, but not
    >> thoughts).
    >>
    >> How many gazillion references do we read and hear about related to
    >> Lao Tze and the Art of War?
    >>
    >> Perhaps a refresher/reminder of the general considerations for
    >> posting to the MSR List Serve would help.
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> David
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Mathew Sheep" <msheep@ILSTU.EDU>
    >> To: MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu
    >> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 10:54:47 AM (GMT-0600) America/
    >> Chicago
    >> Subject: Re: message from India
    >>
    >> I quite agree, Noelle. The MSR listserve had a lengthy discussion
    >> thread on
    >> this topic last year, and I admit to some confusion as to why it
    >> continues.
    >> I suppose the issue is really whether members envision the purpose
    >> of MSR as
    >> a religious/spiritual bazaar or marketplace to promulgate any and all
    >> religious practices/beliefs, or whether it is an academic endeavor
    >> for the
    >> purpose of scholarly organizational research. I joined the interest
    >> group for the latter, not the former.
    >>
    >> The problem with a piece like this is that it is decontextualized
    >> from any
    >> clearly stated academic purpose. I certainly believe strongly in
    >> religious
    >> freedom of expression for all. However, religious truth claims
    >> unsupported
    >> by research or with no clearly given organizational research
    >> purpose certainly raises questions as to why it is promulgated by
    >> utilizing
    >> the communication resources of the Academy of Management.
    >> Best always,
    >> Mathew
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mathew L. Sheep, Ph.D.
    >> Assistant Professor of Management
    >> College of Business
    >> Illinois State University
    >> Campus Box 5580
    >> Normal, IL 61790-5580
    >> Phone. (309) 438-3468
    >> E-mail. msheep@ilstu.edu
    >>
    >>
    >> On 2/4/08, Noelle S <noelles@gwu.edu> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I don't really think that this type of literature is appropriate
    >>> for this
    >>> thread. I'm not sure how others feel, but I don't think that this
    >>> forum
    >>> should be used to promote any particular religious or spiritual
    >>> perspective.
    >>>
    >>> Respectfully,
    >>> Noelle Scuderi
    >>>
    >>> Doctoral Candidate - I/O Psychology
    >>> The George Washington University
    >>>
    >>> ----- Original Message -----
    >>> From: "Y Altman" <y_altman@HOTMAIL.COM>
    >>> To: <MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu>
    >>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:07 PM
    >>> Subject: message from India
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> > Dear MSRnetters,
    >>> > my colleague Ramnath Narayanswamy (ram123@IIMB.ERNET.IN) asked
    >>> me to
    >>> share
    >>> > the enclosed piece with your good selves.
    >>> > I am pleased to oblige.
    >>> > regards,
    >>> > Yochanan
    >>> >
    >>>

    _______________________________________________________________________

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    MSR@AOMLISTS.pace.edu

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